Our Great Qing 在线电子书 图书标签: 新清史 蒙古 清史 海外中国研究 历史 佛教 宗教 英文
发表于2024-12-22
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A good book that uses a lot of Mongolian materials, the problem being it almost only uses Mongolian materials without regarding to specific political-socio-economic-demographic aspects. It is very good textual interpretation indeed, but good interpretation might be bad explanation, and vice versa.
评分粗读了一遍,我完全赞同石滨裕美子对这本书的批评。 首先,不要把蒙古人的观念变化都归结为清朝主动的导引,而没有充分考虑西藏的影响是本书的最大硬伤。或者说,清廷与蒙古诸部是在怎样的互动中给佛教找到了一个彼此都接受的生长空间。从这个角度看,作者没有真正解决问题。 我们只看到了对文本的翻译,而文本背后各方的角力过程,并没有被建构起来。 其次,作者把ulus/törö当作理解17世纪满蒙关系的切入点,也让人感到费解。至少在清初的蒙古文书中,真正并列出现的术语是törö/šaǰin,而与此相关的是作者宣称要超越的qoyar yosu模式(这里定义混乱)。 最后,我同意清朝reunified and created the mongols的观点,但这只是个结论,是需要论证的。现在欠缺的就是论证这个过程。
评分博論用書,用來討論清朝作為佛教帝國的研究。當然這書自然是有缺點的。如果能加入日本學者的研究成果會更好。看了一下豆瓣的評分,只能說這書的重要性被低估了。不過這大概也是因為自己是做這方面研究的吧。在美國學界這方面的書實在是少之又少。有關蒙古十八與十九世紀史學的研究基本上是被忽略的。希望未來有機會再回來這個領域吧。
评分新清史不可错过之作。Dharma and Indian royal traditions...
评分粗读了一遍,我完全赞同石滨裕美子对这本书的批评。 首先,不要把蒙古人的观念变化都归结为清朝主动的导引,而没有充分考虑西藏的影响是本书的最大硬伤。或者说,清廷与蒙古诸部是在怎样的互动中给佛教找到了一个彼此都接受的生长空间。从这个角度看,作者没有真正解决问题。 我们只看到了对文本的翻译,而文本背后各方的角力过程,并没有被建构起来。 其次,作者把ulus/törö当作理解17世纪满蒙关系的切入点,也让人感到费解。至少在清初的蒙古文书中,真正并列出现的术语是törö/šaǰin,而与此相关的是作者宣称要超越的qoyar yosu模式(这里定义混乱)。 最后,我同意清朝reunified and created the mongols的观点,但这只是个结论,是需要论证的。现在欠缺的就是论证这个过程。
Johan Elverskog is assistant professor in the Department of Religious Studies at Southern Methodist University.
"In a sweeping overview of four centuries of Mongolian history that draws on previously untapped sources, Johan Elverskog opens up totally new perspectives on some of the most urgent questions historians have recently raised about the role of Buddhism in the constitution of the Qing empire. Theoretically informed and strongly comparative in approach, Elverskog’s work tells a fascinating and important story that will interest all scholars working at the intersection of religion and politics." —Mark Elliott, Harvard University
"Johan Elverskog has rewritten the political and intellectual history of Mongolia from the bottom up, telling a convincing story that clarifies for the first time the revolutions which Mongolian concepts of community, rule, and religion underwent from 1500 to 1900. His account of Qing rule in Mongolia doesn’t just tell us what images the Qing emperors wished to project, but also what images the Mongols accepted themselves, and how these changed over the centuries. In the scope of time it covers, the originality of the views advanced, and the accuracy of the scholarship upon which it is based, Our Great Qing seems destined to mark a watershed in Mongolian studies. It will be essential reading for specialists in Mongolian studies and will make an important contribution and riposte to the ‘new Qing history’ now changing the face of late imperial Chinese history. Specialists in Tibetan Buddhism and Buddhism’s interaction with the political realm will also find in this work challenging and thought-provoking." —ChristopherAtwood, Indiana University
Although it is generally believed that the Manchus controlled the Mongols through their patronage of Tibetan Buddhism, scant attention has been paid to the Mongol view of the Qing imperial project. In contrast to other accounts of Manchu rule, Our Great Qing focuses not only on what images the metropole wished to project into Mongolia, but also on what images the Mongols acknowledged themselves. Rather than accepting the Manchu’s use of Buddhism, Johan Elverskog begins by questioning the static, unhistorical, and hegemonic view of political life implicit in the Buddhist explanation. By stressing instead the fluidity of identity and Buddhist practice as processes continually developing in relation to state formations, this work explores how Qing policies were understood by Mongols and how they came to see themselves as Qing subjects.
In his investigation of Mongol society on the eve of the Manchu conquest, Elverskog reveals the distinctive political theory of decentralization that fostered the civil war among the Mongols. He explains how it was that the Manchu Great Enterprise was not to win over "Mongolia" but was instead to create a unified Mongol community of which the disparate preexisting communities would merely be component parts.
A key element fostering this change was the Qing court’s promotion of Gelukpa orthodoxy, which not only transformed Mongol historical narratives and rituals but also displaced the earlier vernacular Mongolian Buddhism. Finally, Elverskog demonstrates how this eighteenth-century conception of a Mongol community, ruled by an aristocracy and nourished by a Buddhist emperor, gave way to a pan-Qing solidarity of all Buddhist peoples against Muslims and Christians and to local identities that united for the first time aristocrats with commoners in a new Mongol Buddhist identity on the eve of the twentieth century.
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