Symposium 在线电子书 图书标签: 哲学 Plato 古希腊 英文原版 柏拉图 外国文学 Philosophy 男性
发表于2025-02-02
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爱是什么?一群油腻中年男人喝醉了酒调情的故事。
评分对爱情的理解。。。别的先不看先看看柏拉图吧
评分爱是什么?一群油腻中年男人喝醉了酒调情的故事。
评分这群古希腊哲学家一本正经胡说八道再自圆其说的本领真的很impressive. 对(男性)同性之爱的崇尚和褒奖令人咂舌和艳羡。最触动我的还是alcibiades对socrates的一片痴心。
评分negelected eros; two representations of a contemplative Socrates; the tale of Diotima's lessons and cross-examination; set after Phaedrus
Review
An all-male dinner party in Athens in 416 BC, with plentiful wine and attentive serving-girls, seems an unlikely setting for one of the world's greatest treatises on the nature of love. Yet in the Symposium Plato presents a series of witty, erudite and immensely readable speeches on love, in a setting which would be very familiar to the Athenians of the day. Students of classical Greek will delight in Robin Waterfield's fluent yet comfortable translation. His emphasis on accessibility rather than over-literalism has produced a translation sparkling with wit and ideas, which classicists and non-classicists alike will enjoy reading. Waterfield's fascinating introduction to the text provides valuable background to the sexual mores of the time and the social culture of classical Greece. He also examines each speech in detail, elucidating some of the more oblique points of the text to enable the reader to tackle it with confidence. The Greek playwright Agathon has walked off with the laurels at a recent competition, and is celebrating his victory with a select dinner party, or symposium. As he and his guests take their places, they decide to hold back on the amount of wine they consume and talk about love. The guests at the symposium are a mixed bunch of characters, who deliver their speeches in various styles and with different reactions from their appreciative listeners. Agathon's fellow playwright, the comic master Aristophanes, is there, as is Erxymachus, a doctor, and of course Socrates himself, brilliant philosopher and Plato's mentor. The conversation ranges from a declaration of the importance of homoerotic love to Socrates's account of his discussions with the prophetess Diotima, who claimed that we can only achieve true goodness through love. Into this scene of convivial discussion bursts Alcibiades, ex-lover of Socrates, military genius and famous bon viveur with a scandalous reputation. Thrusting himself between Socrates and his latest lover, Agathon, Alcibiades insists on joining in with the discussion but soon digresses and talks about his own love for Socrates. Although some critics have found the gate-crashing Alcibiades's speech sits awkwardly on such profound metaphysical discussion, it reminds the reader of the physical reality of love, while making several pointed references back to earlier speeches. As Waterfield says at the beginning of his introduction, the Symposium should be read at a sitting and re-visited for further enjoyment and insight. Layer after layer of meaning becomes revealed, and this slender dialogue proves to be a box of ever-increasing delights. (Kirkus UK)
看到一篇老美的研究文章里面分析所谓苏格拉底式的自由,其特征之一便是不进入任何一段交易关系中,不收人家的钱,就不需要迎合别人,去说一些违心奉迎的话。这是柏拉图笔下的苏格拉底与智者们最大的区别之一。(而对比喜剧作家阿里斯托芬的《云》里,苏格拉底照样是收人钱财,...
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