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Mark C. Elliott 作者

Stanford University Press

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2001-3-15 出版日期

608 页数

USD 33.95 价格

Paperback

丛书系列

9780804746847 图书编码

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intro chap 3 conclu

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profound...

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很多灵感和意识源于人类学，尤其族群概念翻炒较晦涩。一些话确实偏颇或要商榷（如满人有无在过往研究中被彻底忽视，一说汉化就说彻底汉化，清史满史是否从未被合写过），但抓只言片语推论欧氏说满清不是中国一部分则太过诛心。欧氏笔下八旗制度既是政治上维系满族族群主权和家国一体化帝国的工具与制度，用驻防和区隔掌握满足族群认同，天长日久又将满族的规范认同转化为文化仪式上履行认同，终至满旗同义，而危机中清朝通过各种形式复兴巩固满旗认同亦可反映八旗制度重要性。也暴露了一个自己着墨不够的矛盾：一方面满清统治集团重视保守团结与族群区隔，以制度文化区分统治精英与民众使得现代形成新满族族群身份；另一方面他又认为满清因有内亚根源和传统而普世性远超以往各王朝，打破中原塞外区隔并管治蒙疆藏，打下中国现代疆域与多民族基础。

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读的第一本英文书，论述满洲统治问题和形成问题做得十分成功，至少很大程度上可以说服我，以重新认识"征服王朝"。当然其中将满汉对立做到了极致与实际可能不符，不过学术的"片面深刻"与"矫枉过正"未必不是一途，至少其在学术史的地位应是无可置疑的。而用chinese称汉人以与manchu相对很可能会导向一种满洲本非中国的思维，从而导致政治上的问题，但作者自然并无这样的企图，要人家美国人坚持中国的政治正确未免强人所难。而只有当你认真读过别人的书你才有权利批评

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又是一本没有成功回答问题的书。回到特定情境才能更好地讨论历史问题8！值得参考但是也只能说～不知道作者有没有某些意图。嘉庆以后为什么八旗制度被mentioned得越来越少值得思考，涵化的提法让我有点脑袋晕晕哈哈哈

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In 1644, the Manchus, a relatively unknown people inhabiting China’s rude northeastern frontier, overthrew the Ming, Asia’s mightiest rulers, and established the Qing dynasty, which endured to 1912. From this event arises one of Chinese history’s great conundrums: How did a barely literate alien people manage to remain in power for nearly 300 years over a highly cultured population that was vastly superior in number? This problem has fascinated scholars for almost a century, but until now no one has approached the question from the Manchu point of view.

This book, the first in any language to be based mainly on Manchu documents, supplies a radically new perspective on the formative period of the modern Chinese nation. Drawing on recent critical notions of ethnicity, the author explores the evolution of the “Eight Banners,” a unique Manchu system of social and military organization that was instrumental in the conquest of the Ming.

The author argues that as rulers of China the Manchu conquerors had to behave like Confucian monarchs, but that as a non-Han minority they faced other, more complex considerations as well. Their power derived not only from the acceptance of orthodox Chinese notions of legitimacy, but also, the author suggests, from Manchu “ethnic sovereignty,” which depended on the sustained coherence of the conquerors.

When, in the early 1700s, this coherence was threatened by rapid acculturation and the prospective loss of Manchu distinctiveness, the Qing court, always insecure, desperately urged its minions to uphold the traditions of an idealized “Manchu Way.” However, the author shows that it was not this appeal but rather the articulation of a broader identity grounded in the realities of Eight Banner life that succeeded in preserving Manchu ethnicity, and the Qing dynasty along with it, into the twentieth century.

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